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Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:30:52 +0000 Just think about when there is only Price chopper in Ogdensburg, Canton, Gov you think their going to leave their prices REAL low for the people when they are the only grocery store in town I DONT THINK SO! Then when they get rid of their gas promotion what would be the point of shopping there!! Good job guys!
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:36:12 +0000 i live in massena ny no deals at are store good bye p&c hello price shopper, cant wait till thay come in ,
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:34:29 +0000 wow, you guys are all dumb. i work at P&C. if you guys do not know, hundereds are going to be losing their jobs including myself. and by the way, its UP TO 50% off on original price.
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:09:36 +0000 It is a joke. 10% when the prices r way up. Do they think we have a S on our forehead for stupid?
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:58:24 +0000 I Will Not Go Back In That Store, Prices Are Higher. Greedy.
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:56:31 +0000 P & C Is still Ripping Us off. Good Bye
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:55:08 +0000 Good Bye P & C.
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:19:41 +0000 i agree prices jumped high for clearence, what do they think they are going to clear the items to funny , if pc wants to clear mark things down to get them gone, i went into the one in massena WHAT A JOKE only thing 50% off was greeting cards. and everything was high way to high they are better off having their regular flyer sales
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:55:42 +0000 as a resident of Gouverneur and a frequent shopper of p&c i can only say ,,, GOOD RIDDANCE!! the prices at this store were already exaggerated. then when they find out theyre closing they hiked up prices even more and took percentages off that for their "sale items" i think it was general consensus here that when they "Updated " with all that reconstruction a few years ago, they became too expensive to shop at anyway.. Bring on the new store were ready!!!
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:55:38 +0000 Its really too bad that good people are losing their jobs, it really is, but along with that the greed of Tops has come to lite, has anyone else noticed that they have increased the price to mark it down a measly 10%. so in retrospect you are paying more for the same item, I won't go back in there ,
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:59:44 +0000 Thank you for airing this - my daughter (third grade) and I listened to it on the way to school this morning, and we were really struck by how motivated these kids were to learn...and how motivated Lynne Ross was to teach, as well! Thanks for giving us something interesting to talk about on the ride to school!
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:26:01 +0000 i was there at the rally in the city of ogdensburg, i say they should not close the prison if they do there wont be anymore restaurant at all , and they are having another meeting in albany on tuesday march 23rd 2010
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:05:34 +0000 Bill Smith has been my hero for as long as I can remember.I have memories as a young child listening to him spin a yarn with friends or to trappers who would sit around the family table trading tales about hunting or fishing.I can remember when he used to work harder than any man should to earn enough money for a family to "just get by". I remember him hunting and trapping the trap line. I can also remember helping to drag deer out of the woods so a family of six could eat through the winter. He worked very hard in everything that he did weather it be in school where he tought Adirondack history for many years or when he made baskets till his fingers bled. I also have memories of him holding his loving wifes hand when she learned she had cancer and him telling her that everything would be alright. I remember him welling with tears the day she had surgery to correct the malignent tumors that were invading her body. He must have known something that we did not because his wife is still sharing their marriage after nearly 55 years. He sets the best example for his 4 children and 5 grandchildren and 1 great grandchild that he can. He makes me so happy whenever I see him tug at his red suspenders or twist on his trademark handle bar moustache. It makes me even prouder still to say that he is my father. Time as a child has passed and I have long since moved. We live several hours from one another but I cherish my father and my mother as well and I treasure the time that I get to spend with them. I miss them so much but I think of them often when I see my daughter smile or when I hear her sing a little song I wonder, might there be another story teller among us?
Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:49:55 +0000 very good site!
Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:24:30 +0000 People who shop at Walmart are doing nothing but contributing to the economic destruction of this country. Walmart doesn't even make an effort to buy local, if they can find something cheaper from all the way in California, they will buy it. Ask Donaldsons Greenery in Brushton who supplies many stores with fresh veggies, Walmart told them to go away.
Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:41:42 +0000 This is very interesting the comments by some of the board regarding their authority. I think you should post something in "the in box" on this topic.
Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:34:15 +0000 Just remember you can't please all of the people all of the time - I have shopped at the P & C in Gouverneur for 35years and have always been pleased with the employees, variety, quality and prices - I will miss it but time moves on - my hope is to see the same familiar faces and prices that are affordable - I am sorry that the employees are losing their union status but I guess they can be thankful if they have a job in these troubling financial times
Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:59:52 +0000 Although P&C was a union shop, their services were lacking. I moved back home form down south where the grocery stores abounded( Winn-Dixie,Publix,Albertson, etc). No other store in the North Country has the selections and quality to match other than Price Chopper. We shopped around to find the best vakue( would love to see a Wegmans) Price Chopper seafood section always has sales with decent prices. Vegetables are fresh and plenty of help to assist. ( very similar to the southern way of customer service) P&C just didn't get it. Gotta believe that is why their out of business. They couldn't compete because they were over priced and services lacked. Price Chopper will step up and win the nay sayers over.
Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:23:40 +0000 P&C prices were the highest in the area. Maybe the prices will be lower and customers will go back to shipping there.
Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:25:51 +0000 Part 3 Those of you that consciously and morally feel that windmills are the way of the future, please think again. You all really do need to think about your community and what it is that the majority wants. ?Community? really is what America needs to bring back. I for one know you aren?t ?greedy?. You have become victims of our corrupt and ill-focused political system. We all have. However, you the farmers do have much more to lose in a way. I understand that. Your total way of living is crashing down around you. You can?t even afford to get out of your line of work. I wouldn?t call it greed? it?s more a desperation or survival instinct. All in all? if we don?t do something to help out our farmers, expect to see a lot more black buggy?s in the area. Don?t get me wrong, there is absolutely nothing wrong with having Amish neighbors (except the fact that they drive BLACK buggy?s after dark!) I think the Amish have had it right all along! They haven?t fallen victim to the energy woes of the world. I?m jealous! I?m certainly not jealous of a landowner wishing to better his economic circumstances, but at what humanly price? If we can all come together and fight the REAL fight. I?m in! Where do we start? We have all been so programmed to ?need?, haven?t we?
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noreply@blogger.com (Knuckleheadedliberal) Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:35:53 +0000 We would all be a lot better off if we just bought fewer "things" but those that we did buy were of higher quality meant to last for a long time. Maybe we would buy more things that were human powered...here I'm thinking of a leaf rake, rather than a leaf blower, for example. I'm convinced that many of the labor saving devices we have been sold really don't save us all that much labor and they cost us a lot more in money, fuel/energy, and quality of life. And I know you didn't want to get philosophical here but our society needs to be re-structured away from the idea that growth equates to increased wealth.
noreply@blogger.com (scratchy) Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:31:36 +0000 Well, it usually is. Too bad we can't vote out the donwstate politicians.
noreply@blogger.com (Jim) Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:04:13 +0000 To Anonymous,
Oh, I see. You mean the line that says "The law, however, emphasizes that an institution's CRA activities should be undertaken in a safe and sound manner, and does not require institutions to make high-risk loans that may bring losses to the institution." You are "reading between the lines for what you think are implied meanings while the lines themselves say the opposite. When I hear the line that the government forced the banks to make bad loans I hear echoing in my head the old Flip Wilson line "The devil made me do it." The banks screwed up. Why are you making excuses for them?
noreply@blogger.com (Brian Mann) Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:25:32 +0000 Here's what I want to know: Why would anyone park a vehicle (or a towable trailer) near a project like these?
--Brian, NCPR
noreply@blogger.com (jdan4) Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:10:19 +0000 Sorry, I thought the issue here was the Ravitch budget proposal. When did it become a debate about the Post Star's journalistic credentials?
noreply@blogger.com (mervel) Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:45:51 +0000 No scratchy,
I don't want to see prisons in the North country close, I don't want to see my property taxes go even more insane. There is a set amount that is always going to be spent in NYS, we should grab as much of it as we can. Yes I would like to see NYS radically change we agree on that, we are the highest taxed state in the Union, yet we have high rates of poverty, where is the money going? It is not going for social programs to help the poor that is for sure.
But moving the prisons around won't change anything at all, it will just push that economic burden on the rest of us.
noreply@blogger.com (CJ) Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:36:09 +0000 I actually saw a similar event. Our back yard neighbors in one of the larger villages in this area were cutting down a tree. They tied a rope as high as they could reach and had several guys holding on to it to make the tree fall away from the house. My wife happened to be walking by the window, saw the event about to happen and called me saying... "This isn't going to end well" Yep... right on the garage. At least no one was hurt... so don't try this at home!
noreply@blogger.com (Devon McDonald) Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:32:05 +0000 One of the problems with animal rights groups such as the Sea Shepherd Society is that they use the Canadian seal hunt as a fundraiser while not actually doing anything to help seals.
The Caribbean monk seal was declared extinct in 2006. Never heard a peep out of the Sea shepherd Society about that.
noreply@blogger.com (Will Doolittle) Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:04:55 +0000 I, too, like Brian's work. But I find the "I'm objective" - "No, you're not," argument silly and, sometimes, on the part of some participants, disingenuous. Of course, accomplished reporters who know a lot about their subjects will make choices about how to frame their stories, and those choices reveal conclusions they have reached about the subject. What reveals most about the reporter's predilictions, probably, are the stories they choose to do. There's nothing wrong with this, in my opinion. I think it's a lot better to read the work of a reporter with years of experience in a subject, who has reached some conclusions about the people and the issues involved, than to read the work of a green reporter with a shallow understanding, who does not frame his story in any particular way, not because of his objectivity but because of his ignorance. Take Brian's original essay in the ADE and his comments on this site about Saranac Lake. He had reached some conclusions about Saranac Lake, that it has a lot going for it, despite some problems, that the cup is more full than not, and he made choices about what to highlight based on that viewpoint. He chose, for example, to play up the increase in population in GREATER Saranac Lake, including some outlying areas, over the last 18 or so years, rather than the decrease in Saranac Lake proper. Fine. But it was a choice, and it shows a leaning toward a certain point of view, based on his experience, his hopes, his feelings about what makes a good place and what makes a bad one, and so on. This is all to the good, in my opinion. The more you understand who Brian is, how he feels about things, the more you understand his work. Personal experience enriches journalism, I believe, and if reporters have come to informed conclusions about people or issues, through reporting and experience, that is a good thing. Not such a good thing is denying the influence of personal experience and point of view on reporting and pretending you approach stories with a blank slate when you do not.
noreply@blogger.com (Paul) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:59:45 +0000 "I felt it was necessary within the course of our on-going coverage to include the voice of someone sympathetic to the pick." Why did you feel this was necessary? If this was the case then why not speak to someone on the committee "sympathetic" to Peter nomination assuming you could find someone that countered what Little and the other member had brought up. Why go back to an earlier interview to find a quote supporting the case that there was not a problem with unbalance related to "environmentalists" on the board? You just want to cover the facts and give us the information correct, not frame the story one way or another.
noreply@blogger.com (Paul) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:49:09 +0000 Unfortunately, it appears that the one "result" of this crisis so far is a perception from large financial institutions that if the screw up again they have an out. Get ready for the next one it is going to be scary. Either you have a capitalist economic system or you don't. A mix will really lead to disaster.
noreply@blogger.com (Paul) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:40:52 +0000 We cut down a 75 foot tall balsam that was leaning toward a camp I have this fall. The tree was partially uprooted by the big wind we had a few years ago in June. We threaded the tree between a shed and the camp. It was perfect, several feet from both ends. We should make a video of trees that went the "right" way. But it takes the right perspective to appreciate that. These are more fun! Thanks.
noreply@blogger.com (Shaun) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:10:13 +0000 So we all agree it is time to pay the piper? IF true leadership is invoked at all levels of government, then this can also be the "greatest generation". The one that brought the country back from the brink. Problem is we stopped electing leaders a while ago.
noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:09:26 +0000 Always use a wedge.
Mike
noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:41:30 +0000 Oooops.
noreply@blogger.com (Harold Fenwick) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:22:32 +0000 JPM, I would agree with 99% of what you posted, except the politicians were not asleep at the wheel, not by a long shot. Chris Dodd and Barney Frank in particular were right in the middle of this and they maintained right along everything was just dandy. Then when it burst they came riding in on white horses to fix the problem they'd overseen the creation of. I forget who the other major players were, seems like Maxine Waters was in the mix too. The point is the people charged with overseeing Gov'ts part in this were well aware of what was happening. Whether they were complicit in the breakdown or just not cognizant of the inevitable result the fact remains they have managed to avoid responsibility almost entirely. IIRC Bush and his administration did make some half hearted warnings but since Bush was an idiot he was ignored. He's responsible as is everyone else in Congress who took part in this.
I would also argue "It is the responsibility of government, not the market, to ensure that individuals, firms, nations, etc. are protected from financial losses." That responsibility is limited. I would argue it is the responsibility of Gov't to ensure a legal set of rules is obeyed, to maintain certain oversight and regulation, but not to "protect" anyone from financial losses through unwise investments. The investor/borrower assumes the risk, not the Gov't. To say otherwise is to imply Gov't will take up the slack on any defaulted loan or lost stock market investment. I'm don't think that's what you meant, but the wording could be construed that way.
noreply@blogger.com (Ed Cole) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:01:54 +0000 ?at levels consistent with Aaa ratings will invariably require fiscal adjustments of a magnitude that, in some cases, will test social cohesion.?
That sounds to me like someone has figured out the party is over for entitlements. How will the near and over 55 crowd feel when it gets out that our Social Security payments aren't going to be what they were projected to be, or when it finally becomes apparent that a whole lot of public sector jobs are going to be cut? Fun, fun, fun. And those will be nothing compared to what happens when the welfare checks stop going out, and I mean ALL forms of welfare- food stamps, WIC, ADC, HEAP, farm subsidies, Amtrak, corporate subsidies... the list boggles the mind.
noreply@blogger.com (PCS) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:58:41 +0000 I'm also one of those big money donors to NCPR. I don't care if they support or do not support a particular issue. I like the conversation. In fact, I lean towards supporting the TL project, if it's done right.
No, I don't get all my news from NCPR, in fact I get little of my news from NCPR. I do love Radio Bob however. I read NYT, Wash Post and Christian Science Monitor backed up by material I get from several blogs I respect. There is no real news on tv anymore.
I think Brian is a good writer and what he writes makes me think. I enjoy that.
noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:55:10 +0000 As long as you don't have a problem with you being the first one we club...
noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:53:13 +0000 "Anonymous Anonymous said...
I UNDERSTAND NOW BECAUSE IT'S IN ALL CAPS.
March 15, 2010 3:01 PM"
DEAR ANONYMOUS,
ARE YOU KIDDING?
I READ THE ARTICLE.
THE ARTICLE IS A DIRECT APPEAL FOR CONSTRUCTIVE COMMUNICATION IN OUR SOCIETY.
POSTING ANONYMOUS BITES DERAILS HONEST COMMUNICATION.
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noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:22:51 +0000 There are seven billion people on this planet,maybe we should start clubing some of them over the head?I,ve heard there's a market for the meat in africa.
noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:13:22 +0000 Hornbeck said he would probably recuse himself from a vote on the ACR if appointed. I am no lawyer but that would be the same as a no vote. I believe it takes six votes to approve a project. A five-five vote would not be enough to approve the project. Hopefully the APA legal experts out there can correct me if I am wrong.
noreply@blogger.com (Brian F) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:04:03 +0000 I donated $40 at the last fund drive. Am I one of the "big money donors" that Anon 3:22 is talking about?
Trust me, if that gave me any influence on NCPR's reporting, I'd use it to get more than token coverage of smaller party and independent political candidates. But I mostly respect NCPR's journalistic integrity and have yet to hear anything serious and concrete to call that into question.
noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:52:36 +0000 If Cod and Salmon stocks didn't need management, then I guess the seals wouldn't either. But in the grand scheme of things, I suppose it can't be much different than killing a white tail deer, or a brook trout for that matter.
My mom is from Newfoundland and they say, " Hit 'em 3 times, once to stun 'im, once to kill 'im for the skinner, and once for the activists."
It takes a Sealer 2 seconds with a pike pole to send one to heaven. Not a bigs deal 'By.
noreply@blogger.com (Anonymous) Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:32:20 +0000 I concur. Who cares what the Post-Star thinks - they have no credibility left whatsoever.
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